[Pease Porridge]
Bob's Mailbox
Bob Pease
ED Online ID #19868
October 23, 2008
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BOB,
You said, “I don’t recall if I’ve ever seen this
circuit in print” (“What’s All This PNP Stuff,
Anyhow?” Sept. 11, 2008, p. 80; www.electronicdesign.com, ED Online 19605), regarding Figure 2. See:
1. P.J. Baxandall, E.W. Swallow, “Constant Current Source
With Unusually High Internal Resistance And Good Temperature
Stability,” Electronic Letters, Sept. 1966, Vol. 2, No. 9, p.
351-352.
2. Thomas M. Frederiksen, “A Monolithic High-Power Series
Voltage Regulator,” IEEE Journal of Solid-State Circuits, Dec.
1968, Vol. 7, #12, p. 380-387. –WALT JUNG
HI BOB,
You said, “I don’t recall if I’ve ever seen this circuit in print.” I
came up with the dash-circled NPN-PNP combination during
a coffee bet with Tom Frederiksen when he was at Motorola.
You might ask Tom when exactly that was, but it had to be the
early 1960s. It’s in the MC1494 (multiplier with level shift).
It’s also written up in several ICE (Integrated Circuit Engineering,
Glen Madland/Howard Dicken) tutorials that I wrote
during the 1960s.
–JAMES E. THOMPSON, PE
HELLO, JIM:
I might have seen some of the ICEs, but it does not ring
a bell if I first saw the circuit there. Even if I did re-invent
it independently, which I doubt, I sure doubt I did it first.
Hey, why didn’t you patent it? Why was Motorola so foolish?
Thanks for explaining where it came from. I’m glad to see you
get the credit. I’m also going to mail your e-mail to Tom. I was
just on the phone with him. He does have some recollections
of the days when this circuit was invented. As I mentioned to
Walt Jung, I don’t recall where I saw this circuit. I didn’t really
think I invented it independently. But on the other hand, I
didn’t see either of those magazines Walt mentioned. And I
don’t think it has been in print very often since 1968.
–RAP
HI BOB,
A couple of decades ago, I was experimenting with some
complementary JFET circuits, including the lambda diode
configuration. I was amazed. Here was a configuration that
allowed me to construct a sine-wave oscillator using only four
components (two JFETs, a capacitor, and an inductor). I was
able to construct a very simple 455-kHz BFO for my homebuilt
short-wave receiver when the exigencies of family and
career took precedence. Since then, I’ve had no real need to
return to researching this device. So I was wondering if there
were any modern-day applications for the lambda diode or if
this device is now just as much a laboratory curiosity as a standard
tunnel diode or tetrode valve.
–MARK BARNER
HI, MARK,
Tetrodes are consistent and reproducible. FETs have such a
wide range of VP and IDSS that if you made a good circuit with
some FETs, you would never be sure you could make a good
circuit again! I’d much rather design with tetrodes. I can’t think
of anything I would design with JFETs. It is true that monolithic
op amps made with adjacent (well matched) FETs can be
pretty good. Almost nobody designs with tunnel diodes anymore.
Almost nobody makes them. They, too, are far out and
not easy to characterize. Hard to select for the characteristics
you might want. Almost anything you could make with FETs
or lambda diodes, I could make better with bipolars. Or an op
amp. I do like JFETs for analog switches.
–RAP
BOB,
I haven’t seen you comment on either the DTV transition
or HD radio. We keep hearing about how DTV will make us
happier because it’s “better.” But I don’t see the video or audio
being noticeably better than a good analog signal. And now
we’re hearing from the Wilmington, Va., test that DTV doesn’t
work at all in the fringe areas (as expected). DTV even with a
converter box won’t let me program my VCR to record more
than one channel. And it won’t work with my portable TV.
HD radio has been available for several years, but I still don’t
hear much talk about it. Analog FM with a good signal is quite
good enough for me. Why do I need FM HD, unless I want
the extra channels that a few stations might offer? FM HD has
such low power that it has much less range. AM HD is useless.
At least in Chicago, there is hardly any music on AM. So why
do I need better fidelity for news and talk? In fact, AM HD
has degraded analog AM. It wipes out the adjacent channels
and raises the on-channel noise floor. Very annoying. The radio
stations don’t promote it much, and I don’t know anyone who
has an HD radio.
–KENNETH LUNDGREN
HI, KEN:
I’m not an RF man. Like many “digital” things, it sounds like
the hype and the reality are far apart. What’s new?
–RAP
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