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What’s Wrong With Engineering Education?


July 22, 2009

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I recently spent a couple of days at the annual conference of the American Society of Engineering Education (ASEE) in Austin, Texas. This event draws roughly 3000 attendees from colleges and universities, mostly from the U.S. While the temperatures outside soared past 100°F, the convention center kept most of us shivering in our boots.

I’ve been to this event several times, but this year I presented a paper related to my advisory work on a National Science Foundation grant project focusing on updating university electronics curricula. Mostly, though, I went to observe what’s happening with the electronics side of engineering education. Here is the big picture as I saw and heard it.

Dearth of Industry Participation

You would think that since the products of our educational institutions are the graduates who go into industry that these companies would be more interested in the educational content and process. I did not see any actual industry representatives at the conference, although surely some must have been there. I cannot help but think that industry would want to be more visible and want some say in shaping the product it ends up paying so dearly for.

Yes, it does take time to participate in education, and most industry folks have precious little spare time to do so, even if they are interested and concerned. Yet participation is necessary. As the old saying goes, if you keep doing the same old thing, you’ll get the same old result. So it is with education.

I fear that we are getting the same old things in our graduates, despite the fact that the industry and technology have moved on and only increased their rate of change. Sadly, the academic community does not usually proactively seek industry input. Most colleges and universities have industry advisory committees, but in my experience schools pay only minimal attention to what these advisors say or want.

Faculty Arrogance

There is more than a bit of arrogance in the attitudes of faculty in most institutions, which is easily detectable in their presentations and in casual conversation. I suppose that most professors feel this way because of their advanced degrees and, I have to admit, superior (in most cases) IQs, knowledge, and competence. There is an overall attitude of “we are smart and know what is best to teach.” Maybe to an extent that is true.

When the goal is to teach fundamentals and basics, it is probably a good idea to let the academics decide. But when it comes to knowing the current needs of industry, I am skeptical of this attitude. The fundamentals do not change, of course. But as technology moves on, some fundamentals become unnecessary, others can just be mentioned, and new fundamentals need to be added. This is where industry advises on content and approach as well as what to emphasize and what to ignore.

Self-Absorption

Academia is focused on itself and less on the students. I will probably hear from angry professors on this claim, but I know I am right. The institutions are so wrapped up in their own issues, problems, and politics, not to mention personal pursuits, that they often forget the students and the industry they serve.

Many professors no longer actually teach. I am not kidding. They get graduate student assistants to teach many classes or conduct labs. What do the professors do then? They write papers to further their own careers and develop and apply for grants—or actually do grant work that brings in big bucks to the department and institution. Students suffer a bit for being denied access to the real teaching talent originally hired for the job.

Another example is the incredible amount of time spent in trying to recruit more women and minorities to engineering. I am not criticizing the effort, as we surely do need to find more ways to attract high school grads into engineering. This effort does not seem to have had much effect, yet the institutions seem determined to produce a student body more aligned with the “correct” quotas or some perceived inconsistency than with students who are interested and capable.

Dated or Skewed Curricula

I have the sense that some of the electronic programs aren’t as up to date as they should be. Most professors tell you they teach and stress fundamentals, and that’s good. But you still need to introduce the latest in components, techniques, and methods so graduates don’t enter the industry without some sense of the current technology. That is almost criminal.

Most graduates still have to go through some on-the-job training when they’re first hired, but they shouldn’t be so ignorant of modern practices that they look bad. That to me means keeping a program up to date, which needs to be done on a course-by-course basis. In a dynamic industry like electronics, it should be ongoing.

Most professors appear to fight against change. Change is hard. It takes time. Most teachers like to keep teaching the material as they learned it one, two, or even three decades ago. Yes, I know that fundamentals don’t change, but you should at least try to teach them in the context of the current technology.

I wish professors would be more open to adopting the latest information and techniques. Yet since they don’t work in industry, I fear that they have a very vague knowledge of what’s new, important, and only nice to know. It’s a subtle thing. Many professors have never worked in industry, or if they did, it was many years ago.

In a way, I fault the institutions more than the faculty, as many professors would like to be more up to date. But few colleges and universities will fund continuing education activities of any kind, such as seminars and conferences, or allow for time off. It’s funny how the institutions want the latest knowledge and tout their pre-eminence but won’t support it unless some government grant funding is paying. Again, what is wrong with this picture?

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  • Art Johnson
    3 years ago
    Aug 14, 2009

    Well put, my friend. This is that dilemma I faced while attending college and has been a deterrent for me returning. In my experience I found that the R&D team, marketing dept. and "in-field" experience counts the most when it comes down to leading the Industry with new ideas and different techniques in Engineering. The Universities and its profs lag in this area via monotonous traditions making it difficult for advancement and improvement with updated material for us Engineers. This creates an issue. On a personal note, perhaps integration with the Industries and the Universities or greater exposure between the two should suffice this issue (advanced internship). Afterall, once educated we end up here anyway.

  • Dave Telling
    3 years ago
    Aug 03, 2009

    Two stories related to this article:
    A number of years ago, we had a young woman who was taking course at our local community college toward an ASET degree. She would occasionally ask me for help with homework. One week, she asked me about problems related to calculating plate areas for capacitors. I was a bit surprised that they had spent a wek on this subject & I talked to the department head about how this was pretty much a waste of time, as the chances of ever having to do this in the field were vanishingly remote. He reolied that he didn't know that so much time was being spent on things such as this. He asked if I would be interested in being on the curriculum committe for the electronics program, and I said that I would be glad to participate, but despite two additional contacts with him, where I brought up the subject of the curriculum, he never called back. I doon't know what they are teaching up ther now.
    The second story was when we got a new EE graduate into the office as a tech/junior engineer, and I was working with him on som efairly basic circuit operation (bipolar transistors & comparators). At one point, I was talking about circuit operation and said that on thebase of a particular NPN transistor, we would expect to see about .65 volts. He replied, "How do you know that?" I then said that this was a pretty standard voltage for a silicon transistor - didn't he learn anything about that in school? His reply was that he vaguely remembered something from a long time ago, but he wasn't very familiar with it. It was obvious that he had spent very little time actually building & testing basic circuitry.
    I agree with "M" above (James Bond's boss, perhaps?) that colleges should be more active in looking for industry-experienced engineers to teach some of their classes.

  • Tom Penick
    3 years ago
    Aug 02, 2009

    I returned to school late in life to get a BSEE. I started out at a community college and finished up at a well-regarded 4-year institution. I noticed that the community college was staffed by career teachers who were interested in the success of all of their students and in polishing their own craft. The administration backed them up with various programs to assist any students who might have difficulty. In contrast to that, the 4-year university was staffed largely by people from industry positions who were falling back on secondary occupations of teaching and did not seem particularly suited to the task. I should mention, though, that there were some notable exceptions--there are a few fine teachers there. The thrust of the first two years of the 4-year university was to weed out as many unsuitable students as possible--those who couldn't teach themselves--while in the Junior and Senior years students were shuttled on through to graduation. It seems to be that the universities could learn a lot about teaching by examining the community colleges.

  • Karl Eilers
    3 years ago
    Aug 01, 2009

    Interesting that in the liberal arts, it's possible for a prof to get time off to do research on Shakespeare, whose opus has not changed in centuries - but it's not possible in engineering, where things change by the minute.

    A tsunami of change in education is coming, no question. In ten years education will look radically different. The question is, will the change come from today's educators, or will it happen around them, leaving them to become tomorrow's typewriters and vacuum tubes? They aren't going to be able to maintain their position as gatekeepers much longer.

  • M
    3 years ago
    Jul 31, 2009

    I agree with your article wholeheartedly. I would add that there are quite a few engineers who have left industry - via outsourcing, early retirements, buyouts, etc. - but who still have several good years left. Quite a few of these industry veterans spent considerable time in front of large groups of people, explaining how a product/technology/process works, what it costs, why you need it, and so on. Sounds something like teaching, doesn't it?

    So, could we get the industry angle into the classroom by hiring some of these engineers to teach college classes? Could we make the working environment attractive so they'll accept the relatively (ridiculously?) low academic salaries. Could academia can live with faculty who don't (gasp) have PhDs or even (horrors) an MS. Hmm, probably not.

    Sounded good for a minute there.

    M

  • Shane
    3 years ago
    Jul 30, 2009

    Co-op/internship programs are an excellent way to help address many of these issues. Industry experience helps students understand what they are learning in school can be applied in the real world. It doesn't replace the other excellent suggestions made in the article, rather it enhances them. This is area where industry and universities can work together to improve the quality and quantity of opportunities for students.

  • J Roberts
    3 years ago
    Jul 30, 2009

    I have a very skewed opinion of Institutions of "Higher" Learning in general. A Va Tech professor described the current University atmosphere as "Beer and Circus". This practice of encouraging poor study habits and distracting students while accepting their tuition added to "sorting tools" i.e. higher mathematics, are used to weed out students so that the number continuing on into the last two years and towards a degree don't exceed a number requiring more teaching staff. It isn't the Universities plan to graduate more students. As noted in your article Professors are about obtaining grants for their department and building their resumes not about teaching classes.
    When approaching your suggestions for correcting the situation through the above (skewed) point of view it makes perfect sense to me why it isn't changed. There's no money in it.

  • Edward Kimble
    3 years ago
    Jul 30, 2009

    Good article. Add too, most protocols for communications, like HDTV and MP4, have become taboo in grade schools, hijacked,"privatized", and secret. "How to" books and kits for microwaves, radio, etc. are not likely to show up on Hanna Montana (but why not). And nobody is out to create motivation or lower entry cost for hobby electronics. A ten dollar programmer for PIC processors should be the beginnings of a cap bomb, rocket, robot, and spy radio in the driveway of every urban nerd in the US. And the 16F84 should cost 10 cents and run at 100Mhz, not be "deprecated". And every toy whiz bang or alley rocket should have an onboard HDTV microcomputer transmitter. Show me that weather station/toaster/aquarium/paint gun/rc car, etc.with that HDTV microcomputer remote control display. Instead we have snake eyes, people so blind, greedy, and gutless that they have to double check their DARPA zipper before every first order differential equation. D1=D1+D2*DT
    One Chinese company with a fast FPGA and a sense of home-boy, and for the US, it's game, set, and match. Like doctors, the problem is not government control but lowering liability cost, lowering generic chip cost, and national efforts to create and promote simple RAD interfaces, open codes, and new markets. Estimates are that a robust hobby HDTV transmitter can be made for 2$, instead we have frozen the market at about $4,000!! Just a thought.

  • TOMD
    3 years ago
    Jul 29, 2009

    Seems like you're confusing a vo-tech technical program with an engineering program. Teaching current parts or languages guarantees obsolescence in short order. Teaching concepts, and fundamentals allows for understanding of new technology as it is developed. Case in point, oscilloscopes are becoming obsolete with new high speed serial busses, you can't just tap into the net and expect to see any sort of clean edge, only at the terminated receiver on the die will the signal be undistorted. You cant drop a probe on HyperTransport, DDR3-1600 or PCIeGen3.

  • S.Sekar
    3 years ago
    Jul 29, 2009

    You are absoultely correct. No professors is ready to update themselves as they may thought of increasing their workload. Yes,education should be upto latest technology with basics ...

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